Wednesday, January 18, 2006
Survivors
Estavisti has kind of a different blog, and I visited there and saw this post about the Roma that live in Belgrade, who recycle things.
Estavisti
The entire film is on Google, I found it not too difficult to understand the people in there, but he says even native Serbian speakers will need the subtitles, which are there.
Google link to 'Beautiful Dyana
One thing became pretty obvious about the Gypsies in the film early on. Most of them; are Muslim at least nominally. I wonder if this plays some part in the hassles they get?
The other thing, as a person who has been around people from India a lot, I noticed right away their physical features are VERY Indian. It looks to me like they try their hardest to have an independant life.
I noticed that they don't want to beg, just to have some way to make a liveing.
These people went to Belgrade during the Kosovo war. Some fought for Yugoslavia and lost everything. It is known that Roma in Kosovo had land, and farmed, they didn't just wander. Basically both sides treated them wrong. That's really too bad.
I also think it's too bad that some people commenting on Estavisti's blog said things like 'Who wants to watch a film about Gypsies?' Well the thing is that these folks try to survive any way they can. What they can do to survive anyone can be reduced to in any country. These people don't whine and complain, they do the best they can with what they have and they try to be clean. It is not easy in their circumstances.
Instead of despising Gypsies, they deserve some respect and some help.
Estavisti
The entire film is on Google, I found it not too difficult to understand the people in there, but he says even native Serbian speakers will need the subtitles, which are there.
Google link to 'Beautiful Dyana
One thing became pretty obvious about the Gypsies in the film early on. Most of them; are Muslim at least nominally. I wonder if this plays some part in the hassles they get?
The other thing, as a person who has been around people from India a lot, I noticed right away their physical features are VERY Indian. It looks to me like they try their hardest to have an independant life.
I noticed that they don't want to beg, just to have some way to make a liveing.
These people went to Belgrade during the Kosovo war. Some fought for Yugoslavia and lost everything. It is known that Roma in Kosovo had land, and farmed, they didn't just wander. Basically both sides treated them wrong. That's really too bad.
I also think it's too bad that some people commenting on Estavisti's blog said things like 'Who wants to watch a film about Gypsies?' Well the thing is that these folks try to survive any way they can. What they can do to survive anyone can be reduced to in any country. These people don't whine and complain, they do the best they can with what they have and they try to be clean. It is not easy in their circumstances.
Instead of despising Gypsies, they deserve some respect and some help.
# posted by Katja R. @ 11:31 PM 
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Thanks for your visit, and yes I have a long way to go with the grammer, but I had hardly any need of the subtitles, I got what wwas being said. I have rather poor vision and even large subtitles can be hard for me to read. I really liked this film I could see a level of mutual aid, and ingenuity in the face of adversity. I think some of the attitude toward Roma people is a little similar to the attitude toward homeless people here in the States. In many ways though, Americans who fall into homelessness are a very different bunch. First of all, they don't usually attempt to find a way to make a liveing beyond begging. Secondly there isn't the mutual support and aid as with Romi.
I have great respect for ingenuity in the face of adversity, and this is someting I could see with these people. I found this film very moveing and beautiful, but also very sad.
My take is no one should have to live in such hardship, but if things really went to Hell for me like it did for these people, I hope I would show the same level of courage!
I LOVE AZRA! She is so excellent as a musician and as a person.
You have a lot on music, I'd heard of Kultur Shock before, they've been floating around Seattle, as a non driver I don't get to escape the gulag on any regular basis, so I haven't had a chance to hear them, the link you had let me hear them, and I like their work!
Your blog is different because it's almost chaotic, I have to go through very carefully, because the font in there is so small, but it's worth it because you have such good information, and on so many things, it's worth a visit because of that.
I have great respect for ingenuity in the face of adversity, and this is someting I could see with these people. I found this film very moveing and beautiful, but also very sad.
My take is no one should have to live in such hardship, but if things really went to Hell for me like it did for these people, I hope I would show the same level of courage!
I LOVE AZRA! She is so excellent as a musician and as a person.
You have a lot on music, I'd heard of Kultur Shock before, they've been floating around Seattle, as a non driver I don't get to escape the gulag on any regular basis, so I haven't had a chance to hear them, the link you had let me hear them, and I like their work!
Your blog is different because it's almost chaotic, I have to go through very carefully, because the font in there is so small, but it's worth it because you have such good information, and on so many things, it's worth a visit because of that.
The 80's in the U.S. was shall we say an unfortunate one for popular music, actually from about 1974 until Punk took root here, I about had to not listen to the radio, because the music was sooo damn bad I could not bear to listen to AM at least, and confined my listening to FM. Even there, it wasn't great, and not much from Eastern Europe got onto playlists. Remember that the Cold War was still going on. I had ONE and ONLY one, record of music of Balkans origin, some predominantly Macedonian bagpipe music. It was stolen from me when my first apartment was robbed. As for rock from the region, well that is only begining to be available. I'm sure those guys were and are way better than Madona!
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